that's right back where we started, square one. how do you think voters will respond to that message? >> i think it's ridiculous and voters understand that they have a choice between listening to what obama says or what their own eyes reveal. the -- i keep thinking 23 million unemployed, 47 million on food stamps, a 2% growth rate is not enough to sustain the population increase for employment. it certainly isn't enough to lower the rate. the only reason the rate is the lowest in his administration is the labor force is the smallest since he took office. so they're not expanding the numerator, they're shrinking the denominator so the result is that the rate comes down because people have given up looking for work. when obama took office there was 70 million working age americans not in the labor force, now there are 100 million working age americans not in the labor force. >> the gdp number, though higher than some analyst predicted, which can be spun in a positive way, much of what allowed for that was federal spending but are the